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Moto Guzzi frame numbers - is your bike what's its supposed to be ?

Please contact Gregory Bender with any questions, corrections, or suggestions for improvement.

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Added:

When you are shopping for a used Moto Guzzi its advisable to check that the frame number fits the model. That can give you a hint on if the bike once had a crash and has been equipped with another frame, or if something else is fishy.

Le Mans 1 is the most wanted (and most expensive) of the Tonti framed Guzzi's, and because only a few parts has to be changed to make a Le Mans look-alike, there's many copy's out there on the streets.

Its no fun to invest your bankroll in a nice Le Mans to discover later that's its really a T3 with the small valves in the cylinder head. Some people say that there are more LM1's today than the factory ever built !

Use the chart below to see what model Moto Guzzi you are actually looking at.

*** NEW ***

My frame number list started out as a copy of the officially accepted list, but several Guzzi owners around the world have send me proof that the list is far from 100% correct.

This may be a 'Mission Impossible', but I will try to compile the feed back I receive, into a better list.

The rare art of Italian logistics will probably prevent that the list will ever be finished, but I'll give it a try anyway.......

So bottom line is: If you have any information that will bring a little more light to the frame number mystery, please drop me a mail.

All helpful communications will be published below the frame number list.

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Frame # list

Gregory Bender added: I am *NOT* an expert in Moto Guzzi frame and engine numbers. These frame numbers are *NOT* 100% correct, particularly for models delivered outside of Italy and especially for models delivered outside of Europe. The two-letter engine prefix *should* be accurate and correct, but the numbers may not be correct for your Moto Guzzi. I highly recommend that you contact the factory directly with any questions regarding the validity of your frame and engine numbers. Please do not contact me as I will be unable to assist.

Andy Bucket sent me an email informing me of another really good list of frame numbers that differs from this list. I strongly encourage you to review the frame numbers presented by the Moto Guzzi Club Nederland.

V7 Sport 'Telaio Rosso' (Red frame)	VK 11111- approx. VK 11261
V7 750 Sport	approx VK 11262 - VK 13842
750 S	VK1 11111 - VK1 12315
750 S3	VK2 15000 - VK2 15998
850 Le Mans 1	VE 11111 - VE 17311 Gregory Bender added: Please read the additional information below regarding Le Mans frame numbers.
850 Le Mans 2	VE 17312 - VE 24086 Gregory Bender added: Please read the additional information below regarding Le Mans frame numbers.
CX 100	VU 111383 - ........
850 Le Mans 3	VF 11111 - VF 20700
Le Mans 4	VV 11111 - ........
Le Mans 5	VV 14000 - VV 16994
1000 S	VV 50001 - VV 51190
1000 S	VV 60000 - VV 60058
850 T	VC 11111 - VC 13793
850 T3	VD 11111 - VD 26537
850 T4	VD 21345 - VD 26537
850 T5	VR 11111 - VR 13115
850 T5	VR 14001 - VR 14400
850 T5	VR 30001 - VR 36416
850 T5	VR 40001 - ........
V 1000 I Convert	VG 11111 - VG 25693
V 1000 G5	VG 18744 - VG 25693
1000 SP & 1000 SP-NT	VG 18781 - VG 25693
1000 SP II	VH 11111 - VH 12229
1000 SP III	VN 11111 - VN 11901
Mille GT	VT 24596 - ........
1000 GT	VH 30000 - VH 34685
1000 Strada	VN 20001 - ........
850 T3 California	VD 11478 - VD 22640
California II	VT 11111 - VT 20479
California C.I. - carb	VW 30001 - VW 30500
California II inject	VY 30001 - VY 30510
California III	VT 32542 - ........
California III	VW 11111 - VW 17350
California III C.I. inject	VY 11111 - VY 11450
California III inject	VY 50001 - VY 50785
V11 Cal. EV	WM 1..... - ........
California 1100 inject	XM 1 ..... - ........
V11 Jackal / Bassa	YM 1..... - ........

Early Le Mans (1) information

[Added by Gregory Bender on ] Thanks to Frank Butaric for sending this information via email. In Frank's own words:

Just purchased a 76 series one from the original owner. According to him it was one of the first 50 shipped to the US. Since we have mutual friends his story checks out. This bike has some differences from the other series ones like the wheels and bodywork. The bodywork is fiberglass: fairing and fenders. The VIN number does not start with a 1 but a VE70832 on the engine and just the number on frame.

Hint: are you looking at a LM1-2 or a T-T3 engine ?

On the round fin engines its easy to check if the cylinder heads installed on the bike actually are the Le Mans type with the bigger valves:

Le Mans cylinder heads have the inlet manifolds attached by 6mm bolts, on a small valve cylinder head the manifold is attached by 8mm bolts.

The LM1-LM2 change mystery!

The official frame # list states that the change from Le Mans 1 to Le Mans 2 happened at frame # VE 13040.

This has always been doubtful, because considering the production years of the LM1 and LM2, and the factory's production capacity, it simply must be wrong.

The following was seen on: http://www.motorold.it/storia/telaiguzzi/1954.htm:

I dati dei Modelli Le Mans sono stati aggiornati e corretti grazie al prezioso contributo di Fabrizio Angelelli che ha trovato delle incongruenze con i dati distribuiti ufficialmente e ha permesso di risolvere questo errore di segnalazione rilevato dalla stessa casa del Mandello

850 Le Mans (1976-1978)

dal telaio VE 11111 al telaio VE 17311

( dati errati dal telaio VE 11111 al telaio VE 13040)

850 Le Mans II (1978-1980)

dal telaio VE 17312 al telaio VE 24788

( dati errati dal telaio VE 13041 al telaio VE 24086)

With a little imagination you can guess the meaning of this, but to be sure I asked Mikkel Hollænder to have a look at it. (He has a University degree in Spanish, which should make him a lot better in Italian language than we, the poor mortals, that only know Danish, English and German)

Mikkel gave the text to a Professor in Italian language (who loves Opera), and he came out with this:

The information on the Le Mans models has been updated and corrected, thanks to the valuable help of Fabrizio Angeleli, who found errors in the official distributed information.

This made it possible to correct the frame number error, that has been mentioned by the factory itself.

So the frame # list is corrected till somebody prove it wrong.

The LM1-LM2 change mystery continued

John Thompson in Canada mailed me this input:

Hi Jens Was just going over your info on LM11 frames. Thought you might be interested in mine which throws a spanner in the number works. Mine is a '78 manufactured in December 1977, ( reason I know this is when I emigrated to Canada from GB I needed something from the factory stating it met Canadian manufacture requirements as at the time it was under 15 years old. ) anyway having digressed, my frame no. is VE 15993 & engine no. is VE75034. Mine ,I guess is one of the first LM11's so it might help find the 'proper' frame start number. Oh yes mine also has chrome bores from new & a different link brake splitter from any others I have seen just to make it a little more interesting. Adding to the confusion! Cheers John T

Things are getting weirder day by day!

Noel Cockfield emailed Gregory Bender this input on :

Very minor point but…

I have owned one of the last Le Mans Mk II's sold in the UK from new, purchased in October 1981. The frame # is VE24443, which is higher than the usually quoted upper limit for the Le Mans Mk II range of VE24086.

Rgds. Noel

Ed Morris (Melbourne, Australia) emailed Gregory Bender this input on :

I have a Moto Guzzi Le Mans Mk II British Special (black & gold) with frame number VE*24446*, which is 360 later than the last recorded on your site.

Martin Penk (United Kingdom) emailed Gregory Bender this input on :

I have an original Mk2 Black and Gold with frame no' 24458 just slightly later than one of your other respondents. Engine number 83668 all ties up with registration docs. First registered in the UK in August 1982.

Black and gold Le Mans II owned by Martin Penk.

Black and gold Le Mans II owned by Martin Penk.

Alberto Dell'Orto (Italy) emailed Gregory Bender this input on :

My information about the mistake in frame Le Mans (1) end number is that the 13040 (others say on 13070) is the last first version bike, with round tail light, one and a half seat and front fiberglass mudguard.

Anyway there are several other modifications that I've found, I list them below, with date and frame number:

Date	Frame number	Description of change
11581	throttle black chrome
11645	front wheel reinforced
11715	change dashboard (?)
11888	new front left caliper (?), decal on brake calipers
11948	new fork shim
12172	transmission double joint
12046	rear shocks springs
12124	clutch (?)
12500	10,000 RPM tachometer and trip counter on speedo
12420	exhaust pipe with reinforcement
12505	new saddle pad, handle Germany version
13214	carburetors with reinforced springs
13686	self blocking nuts for discs
14301	new rod, lever and spring rear brake master cylinder
14414	black galvanized or plastified parts instead of painted
15318	140 main jet, new warning lights (like 850 T3?)
15445	new tank taps
16307	new swingarm boot
16379	1000 SP like gear and brake levers
16633	black plastic springs dampers
16749	protection of starter
17684	new type warning lights and handlebar electric controls (England)
(?)	production change to Le Mans II

Alberto Dell'Orto (Italy) emailed Gregory Bender some additional input on :

I've just read John Thompson's question about his supposed 15993 Le Mans II built in .

My Le Mans (I) was built just 300 frames earlier (VE15688 - engine 77584) and was registered .

Reading the list I sent you, which comes from the personal archive of the painting sector manager (so I assume it to be precise) I think that, given the frame 15445 in the end of September and the frame 16307 just at the beginning of January and considered the Christmas and New Year's Eve holydays, even if built early in December that bike would mean that Guzzi made less than 450 bikes in over two months and then more than 300 bikes in just 20 days…. Very difficult, especially in a very hot period when strikes were frequent.

This conviction is more solid considering that I asked Guzzi a few years ago the origin certificate to be allowed to register a bike with no documents, frame number 13732, and they asked me to help them (!) looking if there's any indication on the frame, because our registers have a black hole between the end of the and the first part of the . The homologation tab told us it was a bike.

All this just to say that the registers are probably a mix of dates, communicated by different sectors of the factory (production, shipments…) and that a bike could maybe be formally ready but immediately put in the assistance sector to fix some error in assembly or any other problem like for example the nylon pigmented front mudguards, that always arrived in the wrong colour…

Typical Italian, especially then!

Ian Thompson emailed Gregory Bender this input on :

I am told by Made in Italy Motorcycles that MK1 frames numbers run from VE11111 to 18146 with 7036 No being built. The owner told me he had owned a very late MK1 with frame No 18145!

The mystery of the US V7 Sports

Steve Farris in the USA have dug out this valuable information:

Jens, I just received this response to my query from Moe at Cycle Garden: Steve, all US export Sports came with serial #'s starting with 31000 31000 for 1971 production 32000 for 1972 production 33000 for 1973 production 34000 for 1974 production. The prototype sports, the first 150 had a red frame and green tank, but I don't know the series #s on those.

Steve

And this one:

Jens, I thought I would update you on what I have found out about V7 Sport production numbers. This is my understanding the situation. When originally built all V7 Sport's had frame numbers stamped in the frame head tube, starting at 11111, which had engine number 30001, the highest known (to me) V7 Sport frame number is 14252 with engine #VK33853. The highest known VK engine number was found on a V7 Sport in the US, #VK34167. This gives a total of about 3142 V7 Sport frames and 4167 engines. The higher number of engines can be accounted for by the fact that in any model, due to replacements, racing needs, warranty, etc., engine production usually outpaces frame production. This difference in engine and frame production was made greater by the fact that the final year of production for the V7 Sport, the S2 model which replaced it used the same engine and thus shared the production until replaced by the 850 engines used in the S3. Local authorities in the USA desired that the frame and engine numbers match, so V7's exported to the US had a tag affixed to the frame's head tube, covering up the stamped number and using a frame number which corresponded to the engine number ( i.e. my V7 had engine number VK31082 so it was given frame number 31082 upon being shipped to the US). By calculating the engine numbers beginning with 30001 the original frame number on my V7 was somewhere around 12192, although this could only be verified by removing the frame tag and checking underneath. Due to the fact that more engines than frames were produced it is unlikely to match exactly. On many models which were destined to be US import bikes the original frame number was never stamped on the head tube, only the metal plate with the US frame number. On most US V7 Sport's the only way to tell is to remove the frame plate to look underneath. In many States removal of this plate is considered a criminal offense, so most people don't bother checking. If I ever have the frame re-finished I will remove the tag and look beneath for any signs of the original number. This frame production number is not to be confused with the factory 'homologation' number of DGM 9104 OM which is stamped on the head tube of all V7 Sport's to identify the type of the frame. Steve

Excellent, isn't it ?

V7Sport, 750S, 750S3

Rolf Halvorsen:

Hello Jens I may have some useful information for you: A friend of mine, Axel in France, has collected the frame and motornumbers for the V7 Sport / 750S / and 750 S3 models. This is the result until now: V7 Sport 'Telaio Rosso' VK 11111 - 11261 (150 units) 'This is disputed. Some say that the quantity should be 200, even 300.' The V7 Sport VK 11111 - 14252 'Be aware that the bikes imported to US had the motor number (VK 30001 - VK 034167) as official frame number.' 750S VK1 11111 - 12184 'None was official imported to US.' 750S VK2 15000 - 15925 'None was official imported to US.' Rolf

V7Sport - Continued

Ernst Papousek:

Hello Jens I am the owner of a V7Sport with frame Nr VK 14077. This number is not included in your list. The year on the identification plate at the steering head is 1973. According 'Motociclismo d'Epoca' there had been built approx. 3500 V7Sports from 71 to 74. The bikes sold in 1974 should have been built at the end of 1973. If you need more info, I could try to find the above mentioned revue and make a copy of the article for you. Ernst 'Motoguzznix' Papousek

T5

Pat Mulloy:

Hi Jens, I have 2 USA version T-5's and my frame numbers are: VR 100023 (engine number VR 012854) VR 100027 (engine number VR 012737) Both are originals and have not had engine swaps. Thanks for the effort,

Pat Mulloy

This is probably going to be a life long quest for the truth............

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Got a few questions on:
Upgrading engine from 350 cc to 500 cc, differences in engine and/or gearbox between V35 and V50.
Possibility of upgrading brakes with 'integral brake system', which exists on other versions of V35.
Any data on V35 / V50 would be appreciated.
Davorin
Zagreb, Croatia

Try the page of resources for Books and Manuals

Mon Jan 28 2008
warsawwarrior1 at yahoodot com
seals le mans saddle bags
moto guzzi 1972 elderado
need to find seals for le mans saddle bags,for the cover that opens & closes.Do you know where i can purchase the weather seals so it closes tight...They are dry rotted...Moto guzzi 1972, 850 cc,s. can you help me ? thank you.
swanton ohio, 43558 USA

Sun Jan 27 2008
lassehorskjaer at webspeed.dk
spare parts
Moto Guzzi 'Zigolo' 98 ccm. 2.-stroke single cyl.
Need new/used parts:17 in. alu rims - exhaust system - 14 tooth chain-sprocket + flywheel magnet parts - brake & clutch cables etc.
copenhagen/denmark

Moto Guzzi 1966c Stornello Scrambler 125cc

Tue Jan 08 2008
pbergstr at lakedalelink.net
Photo
Moto Guzzi Scrambler 125cc
I found this ad page for the Moto Guzzi and I thought you might like a copy of the scan. Peter Bergstrom
MN

Thu Dec 06 2007
rholland20 at yahoodot com
moto guzzi
le mans 850 1983
hello , hoping you could help us with finding a owners manual for the above model
Bath

Try the page of resources for Books and Manuals

Fri Oct 26 2007
utland at guzziclub.nu
Sweden
Hi I´m representing Moto Guzzi Club of Sweden and wonder if you would be intrested in putting a link to our site www.guzziclub.nu on your site.
Ciao
Tina
Helsingborg, Sweden

Mon Oct 15 2007
mudone at aapt.net.au
badges
v65sp
I am after the v65sp side cover badges after much running around i am unable to soarce them
australia

Thu Aug 30 2007
lynn.isaac at tinyworld.co.uk
Moto Guzzi Stornello 125 1962
I wish to Contact Angelo Tadini at Tadini Angelo Officina Moto. Corso Europa, 63 24020, Scanzorosciate (GB) Italy, a friend needs several Parts.
WALES United Kingdom

Wed Apr 04 2007
tecox1 at bigponddot com
Wanted to buy
Moto Guzzi 750 S3
Am desperately searching to buy the above bike.
Are you able to help?

Regards,

Tim Cox.
Australia

Great bike - I had one of these for a short while back in 1979 which I'd traded a Triumph special for. I'd sold a V7 GT to buy that.
Recommend you try the MGOA
http://www.mgoa.org/

Sat Mar 24 2007
jstas at optusnet.com.au
T5 parts book & w/shop manual
1993 850 T5
I have a friend who owns a T5. He needs to do some work on it and also replace a rear oil seal and needs a r/h side cover. Does anyone know where I can download a manual and parts book for him?
Regards John (Californian)
.................
This is all I have at the moment, but I will go over to Andrew's place asap and take some decent clearer pics so you can see side cover details and the bike complete.
Many thanks for your reply.
Andrew is one of those blokes that will help everyone out at the drop of a hat, but now he is in a bind so I figure we can help him out this time. Having one of the T 5 models is almost a problem in itself although it does make the bike alittle unique, even if some refer to them as the Frankenstein of Guzzis...bit unfair hey.
All the best for now
Regards
John Robertson (Tassy)

Underbraked, overweight, a Watt's flywheel, slower than a wet week... and bog-ugly. No, Frankenstein's fair. Ed.

Try this page:
Makes/Moto_Guzzi/Literature/ Hello everyone, I grabbed some pics of Andrew's T5 this arvo, road dirt andall.

As well as the r/hand side cover and badge, (which he only lost a month or so ago), he also needs tacho and speedo cables (and the small olive that goes on the end of the speedo cable ...!?...)

Do you know of any replacement clock that will fit the fairing? The lens is totally white and as far as I know the clock doesn't work anyway. I thought a Smiths car or marine type one might, but would rather know for sure if others havepreviously fitted something to their own bikes before buying and trying.

His mufflers are also on the way out and I have no idea if there are any after market replica replacements for these.

I'm encouraging him to gradually get his bike back into good street condition. With a re upholstered seat and the fairing re-paointed and striped it would look good.

He used to be one of our 'Posties', but was knocked off his little AustPost Honda when a car reversed out of a driveway onto him. He's now on a disability pension, so things happen slowly.

Hise wife enjoys the occasional day out on the bike so hopefully you can help them, get it happening better for them.
I've just helped him replace his pads and bleed his discs, so that part of things seems to be ok now.

How much is MGOA club membership any way ? I might even try to join them up, just to give them a bit of a boost.

Bye for now
Regards
John Robertson

John
Hi, Regarding your request for a Parts book for a T5 1993? .I think you
mean 1983. NSW Club has numerous parts list in Micro fiche ( which you need a fiche reader ) form as by that stage the factory was not producing parts books,Manuals were still in paper form. As of today there are no manuals or parts listprinted on paper by the factory only in CD form.

It is possible to copy the fiche to a paper format but we have to find some
one that will do it first, as I will not lend it out to a non club member. We don't have a manual but you could try Moto One or Stein Dinse in Melbourne but be warned some of the copies out there are copies of copies and are not thatclear.

Advice on a cali from members... well maybe, but what model are we talking about?
Calis have been produced since 1972.
Regards
Brett Rosenthal
President MGOA

Tue Mar 06 2007
bduvelius at mach1pc.com [bounced]
what is it worth
1972 moto guzzi ambassador
i have a 1972 ambassador that has been 100% restored and has 6018 miles on it since restoration. i have been offered 3000.00 usd. for it. is this a good price or is my moto worth more and if it is , how much more. thanks,brian
indiana,usa

I believe it may well be worth more than $3000, but without viewing it's rather hard to say. The page of classic motorcycle price resources at https://cybermotorcycle.com/valuations.htm may proveinformative.
See the page on Classic Motorcycle Prices

Fri Feb 09 2007
chris.watts13 at ntlworlddot com
CYLINDER MODS
V65 LARIO
have a nice V65 Lario, runs fine and looks the part. Have been told that the eary models had a problem with the valves and this was cured by a factory mod. Anyone know how to identify if my machine has had the mod or what was involved inmaking them less fragile in the valve dept ??

Cheers.

Chris Watts.
Lincolnshire, UK.

Yes, I believe that's true, but if your bike is running fine after all these years then it's probable that it's been modified or was not affected. Ed.

Mon Oct 23 2006
info at guzzistadot com
Moto Guzzi
Hi there, we've set up a Guzzi enthusiast site in England and would like to contact Guzzisti around the world…

We are at www.guzzista.com

Regards
Jose
Squadra Guzzista

Fri Nov 03 2006
focamocagti at yahoodot com
guzzi 350cc
i need contact points or electronical ignition v50v65 for moto guzzi 350cc 1984 v model
romania europe

Thu Oct 26 2006
bremoit at hotmaildot com
giulari seat
72 moto guzzi eldorado
looking to buy the large black and white solo seat on the 72 MG california. I am in Memphis, TN USA. Please advise
Memphis, TN USA

Sun Oct 22 2006
heavy.dee at hotmail.co.uk
Moto Guzzi
lodola gran turismo
Hi there, I have a Guzzi Lodola , same number appears on frame and engine - *RCE60*
Is there anyway of determining year of manufacture and what exact model it was? Thanks in advance- Gary
Kent

Mon Sep 11 2006
dbprice at optonline.net
tank bag
2002 LeMans
I want one for this bike but I can't find one. Any ideas?
New York

Try browsing the Luggage directory at Bikelinks:
http://bikelinks.com/directory/Parts/Luggage/

Thu Aug 24 2006
ddunn at aggreko.com.au
Motoguzzi 850 Lemans
1977 Model ( VE15756 )
I am looking at purchasing the above Guzzi, could you advise if this is a MKI OR MKII ?
Sydney Australia

If it's a '77 model then it is almost certainly a Mk1 as I don't think the MkII came out until about 1980. Ed.

Mon Jul 31 2006
Aries1404 at aoldot com
moto guzzi three wheeler car
moto guzzi / 1950s model
I am desperately seeking parts for this vehicle. Any ideas where I might get parts either in Italy or Uk?
Scotland / Italy

Mon Jul 31 2006
ppos at mweb.co.za
Moto Guzzi Dating
Moto Guzzi Stornello 125 Scrambler
I need urgently to know the date of manufacture
Engine T*84 LI *
Frame T*47LI* 10M82780M
Johannesurg

Wed Jul 12 2006
ogallar1954 at hotmaildot com
BIKERS
MOTOGUZZI 500CC-MONZA
PLEASE I NEED INFO;IS POSIBLE YOUR HELP TO ME TO GET IN TOUCH WITH BIKER TO HAVE A LOOK TO ME WEB-- urbanglad.com/easybiker (404) --bikers helping bikers.thank you.
seville-spain-europe

This really is a rather unusual Guzzi site. Ed.

Tue Jun 06 2006
wtrotta at aoldot com
parts ??????
2005 nevada 750
some jerk hit it while parked. i need a front fender mounting bracket. i've called piaggio usa. what a joke. no customer help at all. i alos need a right blinker. n.y. dealer has called all over states. nobody has parts. i love the bike,butwhat good is it if i cant get parts.
n.y. u.s.a.

Thu Jun 01 2006
charles68 at optusnet.com.au
mystery
single two stroke
have a moto guzzi motor its very old and is similar to the motor from the motoleggera . It has the same configuration but the right hand side cover is slightly different. The left hand circular cover is the same and has Moto guzzi cast intoit. Any Ideas Cheers Charlie
australia
...
P.S.
Sorry the pics are not very good mate, I am not much of a photographer :-)
The engine has been caked in grease for the last 20 years and I just gave it a quick degreasing before I took the shots, Unfortunately the High Tension lead has decayed as you can see in the photos but the casings etc arestill in very nice condition.
If my luck runs true to form this will be a very common engine, but I will leave that in the hands of an expert...
Thanks for your help mate I really appreciate it
Kind Regards
Charlie

Sun Apr 30 2006
cornmeister at hotmaildot com
Guzzi Longlegged advertisments.
Hello Sheldon, I would originals or copies of the Guzzi long legged ads/posters featured on your website.Do you know where I can purchase these,or copies of them?
Regards, Michael McCann,
Kilkenny, Ireland

• No, Micheal, I don't. If you find them, please let me know as I'd love to have better versions. Ed.

Thu Apr 13 2006
a.siri at tin.it
Vendo
Moto Guzzi 400 GTS 1977
Vendo Moto Guzzi 400 GTS 1977, 4 cilindri perfettamente funzionante, 17.000 Km.
Richiedo 2.000,00 Euro
Novara

Moto Guzzi Dingo 1969

April 4th 2006
gwuopl at yahoodot com
I also sell this:

Moto Guzzi DINGO GT 49cc
working, with all documents, from 1969, 3000Km
at 600. I'm based in Milan Italy

Many thanks again,
Marco

Sat Apr 01 2006
rjhg-k at tiscali.co.uk
gearbox
moto guzzi. zigolo. 110cc, aug 1962
trouble with first gear.would be thankful for information for spare parts for the model above. thank you.
london

Mon Mar 20 2006
karl at brithdirmawr.co.uk
con-rods
Hi guys I'm looking for a matching set of con-rods for my 850T4 1981/82, does anyone have a pair, or knowes where to get them from.thanx.
newport, pems

Anyone who has secondhand Guzzi parts is likely to have conrods - the rods are basically the same in all bigblock engines up until at least 1985. Try the section for Moto-Guzzi Dealers at Bikelinks. Ed.

Jan 18th 2006
Ciao
Do you by any chance have any knowledge of an alternative bulk chain supplier for timing chains for the Guzzi small block models. Regina no longer make the chain.
Peter
--
Hi Peter,
Not offhand, no. Can you give me the chain specs and I'll see what I can find. I'm sure there was an alternative way back when.
--
V50/V65/Lario smallblock camchain
Part# 19 06 80 21
Heavier than Tsubaki BF05M and BF05T

subject: Moto Guzzi Military half track 1960
Email: bikebarn at uplink.net
message: Dear Sir,

We recently purchases a Moto Guzzi military half track claimed to be 1960. I attached a pix of it. It is a two cylinder. We purchased this for our museum and would appreciate any info. or where we would go to obtain literature on this. Wealso have a 1962 Moto Guzzi dump truck among the numerous Guzzi's in our museum.

www.billsbikebarn.com museum website.

Sincerely,

Judi e.Laubach

Bill's Old Bike Barn
7145 Columbia Blvd.
Bloomsburg, Pa. 17815
(570) 759-7030
[Please Note - email replies have bounced. Tried twice. Ed.]

Moto Guzzi Motoleggera 65cc 1947

Tue Sep 06 2005
eloiduez at hotmaildot com
Moto Guzzi,
Hello, I found this motor bike, misses just the front headlight, will be for my wife, motor,moto-guzzi, will motoleggera 65cc of 1947

6th Sept 2005
subject: stornello help
Email: baniplayboy at yahoodot com
message: where can i get parts for a 1963 Stornello, such as piston kit valves and clutch please need your help

Mon Aug 15 2005
rossbarronstorey at aoldot com
moto guzzi v-8
where does the painting of the moto guzzi come from?
do you sell prints?

Moto Guzzi Engine Identification Numbers Lookup

The image is by Barron Storey, but I don't believe prints are available.

Mon Aug 15 2005
JosephK.s-Plight at hotmaildot com
1984 Moto Guzzi V65 SP- Need Repair Manual
Hello, I have recently acquired a semi-beat up 1984 Moto Guzzi V65 SP and was wondering if you could direct me to a shop,and/or store in which I can purchase a repair manual. The gas tank is rusted, as well as other parts and a manual wouldbe fantastic to help me repair this bike. I live in Milford, PA and would also like to know where the nearest Moto Guzzi outlet might be to my home, in case I need to purchase new parts, ETC. I am also willing to go to New York City for arepair shop/outlet, so a location in NYC would be greatly appreciated as well. Thank you and I hope you can be of service to my dillemma.

Thu Jul 21 2005
trevallyn.h at networkbbdo.co.za
1933 Moto Guzzi Sport 15 parts manual
I would like to find out if you have, or can put me onto anyone with a manual for my motorcycle that I am restoring. In the process of restoring it, some parts have been stolen and I need to get replacement parts. But to do this I need partnumbers... You see my dilema!

----

I appreciate the speedy reply, I have attached the only picture I have of it before I started the restoration process. It isn't very clear but alas its all I have.

I was in the process of getting the correct size roller bearings for the crank because of the age and wear and tear, we had to machine a bit and thus needed oversize bearings. The mechanic had the parts in his car and the worst possiblething happened, his car was stolen, along with my crank shaft, bearings and con-rod. I have no record of the part numbers. I was put in contact with Angelo Tadini in Italy, he says there are two different con-rods for my particular model,AND he only deals through another gentleman by the name of Duilio Agostini. There are two problems: the number I was given does not seem to work, and he only works on part numbers. SO I am sure you understand my frustration, over an abovethe language problem, non of them are aware of a wonderful little thing called e-mail, they are all on snail mail or fax.

I do hope you can aid me in my search, there are a few other odds and ends I need: one being a new chrome exhaust/silencer, the other being the rubber knee pads on the side of the tank, and lastly an original headlight, mine is originalbut I believe its was sort of optional.

I assume almost all of what i need will be in this parts catalogue and I will need numbers in order to get anything from Italy.

Regards
Trevallyn

P.S. I am not sure if you are aware of the DJ motorcycle run in South Africa, it is one of the biggest old bike runs today. This Bike has completed the + - 800 km distance on 4 occasions.

The rally is only open to bikes built up to and including 1936. It comprises of regularity sections over most of the course and spans 2 days. It starts in Durban and runs to a town called Newcastle for the halfway stop over night and thenthrough to Johannesburg the following day. It usually attracts a field of over 120 motorcycles ranging from 1910 (My motorcycle aswell, 1910 Bradbury) to 1936, Nortons, BSA's, Sunbeams, Scott's, Bmw's, Royal Enfield's, almost any legendarybike you can imagine...

I can send you more details if you wish.

Wed Jun 15 2005
derosssd at comcast.net
motoguzzi dingo manual
I would like to know if i could get a manual and parts book for my motoguzzi dingo i am restoring ( in english). Please let me know Thank you Scott

There is a Spanish site which has an online manual for the Dingo, listed in the Moto Guzzi Singles section of Bikelinks.Ed.

Thu May 26 2005
jbq at misa.co.za
Guzzi side cover badges
Looking for left hand side cover badge for 83 Lemans mk 3
any suggestions

I take it that the badges are no longer available new. You might try some of the dealers listed in Bikelinks Moto Guzzi Dealers.Ed.

Moto Guzzi Engine Identification Numbers Chart

Wed May 11 2005
miles.greenway at adi-limiteddot com
AIr Filter
I have a 1996 nevada 750 NT. Any idea of an easy way to change the air filter.

Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2005
subject: V 35 restaured to sell
Email: jeanmariejmd at aoldot com
message: for 7500 € a very nice and genuine V 35 to sell

Date: Wed, 16 Mar 2005
subject: Moto Guzzi Stornello 160 1963??
Email: Kim.lange at fluordot com
message: Can you please tell me more about them, and what is the value of them if you decide to sell and who do you contact? I live in South Africa.
Extensive information (in Italian) on the Stornello at www.morino.it/guzzi.html, and basic specifications at dropbears.com/m/models/guzzi/stornello.htm. Ed.

Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2005
subject: guzzi 65cc 1951
Email: a.remonato1 at virgilio.it
message: cerco guzzi 65cc mod. anno 1951 senza documenti possibilmente completo

April 18, 2000
I happened to find myself seated next to a pleasant young woman on a flight from Beijing to Shanghai. When she told me that she was half German/half Italian, I mentioned that I rode a Moto Guzzi. She said that in Italy these bikes aresometimes referred to as 'diaboli di strata' or 'devils of (the) road.' She knew that Guzzi's were big bikes, and while she may not have known the difference between a Guzzi and a Ducati, I'd guess the term applies to bigbikes in general. In any case, I liked this phrase and I thought I'd pass it along to the list. Seems that the slightly sinister reputation of motorcyclists isn't limited to Harley riders in the US.

Also, if you've not heard the words 'Moto Guzzi' properly pronounced by an Italian, the sound is wonderful.
Rich A

From Dan Gogswell:
'Devils of the road' would be 'Diavoli della strada'.

From Tim Crump:
Hey Rich, Cogswell is right. The correct translation would be as he says 'Diavoli della strata'.

<Ben English:>

It is a tragedy that Guzzi hasn't developed the small block more, and when it has, hasn't exported them to North America. If I could get my hands on a nice V75, I might actually own a Guzzi, instead of merely recommending them to (andmaintaining them for) all my friends and relatives. For all their virtues, the big blocks just weigh too much by my idealized standards. And the V50 is just too slow. I've never ridden a V65 though... that might convince me. Then I'd have toraise the US$2500 or more that seems to be the going rate for decent V65s... unfortunately not a likely scenario for me. Max output of small models according to a 1989 factory Workshop Manual:

V35: 35 hp at 8100 rpm V35 Imola: 36 hp at 8200 rpm
V50III: 47 hp at 7500 rpm V50 Monza: 48 hp at 7600 rpm
V65: 52 hp at 7050 rpm
and (factory specs) from another source:
V75 Nevada: 48 hp at 6200 rpm

This goes just to illustrate that bigger displacement on the small models is no guarantee for substantial gain of maximal output power. As far as max output is concerned the V50 and V65 seem to represent the optimal ratio of power toweight.
Bigger displacement however DOES pay of when torque is considered, since it results in more torque and - most importantly - usable torque over a wider range of revs.
Riding a V65 © myself, I've never ridden a V50. From what I hear people seem to complain more often about lack of power of a V50 than a V65. Seems to me that the real issue here is torque rather than max output. The V75 models, on theother hand, seem to have been developed with maximal bottompower in mind. The Nevada is a cruiser rather than a bike to ride sportslike. This may be the reason why the V75 Targa - described by Dave Richardson as the 'slowest 750 sportsbikeon the market' - wasn't very successful.

In fact IMHO the V65 would have been the best engine to base a sportsbike on. With more torque, more ridebilaty, many small improvements and only a marginal increase in weight it would have made a substantial improvement over the V50Monza. The most important reason I can think of why Guzzi never developed such a 'V65 Monza' is that its 650 cc would put it unfavorably in competition with racebikes above 600 cc, whereas the V50 Monza more comfortably competes with bikesup to 500 cc. Its race-competitiveness on the track set aside, IMHO on the road a 'V65 Monza' would have been the best sportsbike you can make based on a small block. I might make me one myself someday... As to the development of the smallblocks. The 4 valve setup on various models like the Lario offers a substantial gain in hp but (apparently) at the cost of less reliability.

The only other way to go is to dispose of the Heron-head setup on these models, which is the real obstacle to more hp's. If it's true that the Ippogrifo-engine has hemispherical combustion chambers, a new sportsbike model based on thesmall block may eventually become an option.

Moral: If you're looking for a fast, small, and light bike a V65 is the Guzzi to go, but there is still room for development. Hope the factory will realize this in the near future.

Ciao, Rob van Maris [robvanm at knoware.nl]
1985 V65C: 112,543 km's at last count

Re - Guzzi ID marks - A little bit of an outline if it helps. I could probably locate more if you want them or your bike isn't included.

Frame ID :-
VE11111 - VE13040 early Le Mans.
VE13041 - VE24086 Le Mans II
VC - 850T 1974 to 1975
VD - all round barrel 850 models (T3/T4/T3 Calif' 1975 - 1985) except Le Mans.
VF - Le Mans Mk III 1981 - 1984.
VG - all round barrel 950cc models (Convert/Spada/Spada NT/G5 1975 - 1985).
VH - Spada II 1984 - 1987.
VN - Spada III 1988 on.
VR - 850 T5 16' front wheel 1984 on.

Best regards,
davies06 at globalnet.co.uk Dave Davies, Belton, North Lincolnshire, UK.

(from:www.motorcycleworld.co.uk/ [404] )

MOTO GUZZI is set to reveal an all-new engine to power its next generation of bikes - including a rip-snorting World Superbike challenger.

The 1000cc V-twin, which will be unveiled next month, breaks with Guzzi tradition by using water cooling for the first time on a twin. And a 75-degree angle between the cylinders, instead of Guzzi's usual 90 degrees, means bikes can looksleeker and be more aerodynamic.

Guzzi will also ditch shaft-drive on the new sporty models. The new engine is fuel injected and has four valves per cylinder and chain-driven twin overhead cams. It will have to produce at least 120bhp to compete with Italian rivals suchas Ducati's 916 and Japanese V-twins including Suzuki's TL1000R and Honda's VTR1000.

The new bikes will be produced in Guzzi's new Monza factory which will be able to make up to 20,000 bikes per year against today's 6500.

Visit the MOTO GUZZI BOOKSTORE

Dear Fellow Mailing Listees,

About a year ago I E-mailed a message concerning production figures of Guzzi from 1921 - 1940. During the last year I did more research, and have now finally finished investigating all the production figures of all production singlecylinder bikes from 1940 - present, with the exception of the Nuovo Falcone and the later two strokes like the 125 C. These will follow, time permitting.... The list I made if from now on used by the factory as well and contains also allmilitary bikes, production racers and three-wheelers.

Also the V-twins are coming together now, though this is not completed yet. What is available are all production figures of all (V)(35)/(50)/(65)/(75) Custom, Florida and Nevada models per year, and the production figures of allCalifornia models, and Le Mans models (incl. 1000 S and 1100 Sport, until 1995. (Not Included: V7, V7 Special, 850 GT, Ambassador, Eldorado, V7 Sport, S/S3/T.. T5/SP.. SPIII/Mille GT/Strada!!).
Also this list is used by the factory as of now.

So if any of you want to know how many bikes of your type were made, mail me and I will let you know. For example, if you want to know how many Le Mans's were made in 1978, I will inform you that there were 1737.

And if you want more info on the (development history) of these bikes, stay tuned for Greg Field's book on the history of the big Guzzi V-twins. It is really a superb book, which covers the history in extend and absolutely brilliant andtruthful. The amount of research he has conducted is impressive, and has lead to much new information on the bikes, especially the American Guzzi versions like the Ambassador and the Eldorado. Check the book out, it outclasses Twins and alsoColombo (which contains quite a few mistakes, though not near as many as Twins...).(Sheldon's note: Amazon.com is taking orders for Greg's book already)

Sincerely,
Ivar de Gier, guzziman at wxs.nl

Here is an article taken from La Gazzetta dello Sport of September 18, 1998:

La Guzzi resterà a Mandello
La Moto Guzzi resterà a Mandello del Lario (Lecco). Lo ha deciso ieri il consiglio d'amministrazione della Casa per le difficoltà incontrate nella realizzazione dell'ipotesi di trasferimento a Monza (Milano) nell'exstabilimento della Philips. Gli attuali impianti produttivi di Mandello saranno però aggiornati agli standard di efficienza che sarebbero stati consentiti dalla nuova sede. Inoltre il Cda ha confermato che entro la fine dell'anno laMoto Guzzi Corporation verrà quotata presso il Nasdaq di New York, con l'obiettivo di finanziare la propria crescita aumentando le risorse disponibili già entro la fine del 1998.

Translation:
Guzzi to stay in Mandello
Moto Guzzi will remain in Mandello del Lario (Lecco). It was decided by the board of directors due to the difficulties encountered in the planned move to Monza (Milano) in the building formerly occupied by Philis. The current factory inMandello will be upgraded to the standards that would have been achieved in the new location. In addition the Cda (I do not know what this stands for) announced that by the end of the year Guzzi stock will be traded on the Nasdaq stockexchange, with the objective of financing the growth of the company increasing the resources available by the end of 1998.

You can find the article at: http://www.rcs.it/lagazzetta/benven.htm [404] at the end of the Motori section.

Best Regards
Claudio Cavalli
CCavalli98 at alumni.gsb.columbia.edu
claudiocavalli at ibm.net
claudiocavalli at famiglia-cavallidot com

Hello fellow mailing listees,

Came back from Mandello a few days ago, which is still in a turmoil over the non-move to Monza. The new director, Dino Falciola, is appointed and it is now up to him to walk the thin line between the Guzzi-employees and the Guzzistockholders. The new engine won't progress as quickly as it was intended previously, WSB racing in 2000 is uncertain, the new 'Gilera-engined' single is uncertain, and the scooter, though introduced in prototype form at Munich, probablywon't go in production at all.

Because of the unclear situation for many months about the (non-)move to Monza, production of the V11 Sport is delayed. A pity. Positive is the new V11 GT. A massive looking bike. The discussion about the 'Grand Tourer' on this list, overa year ago, can be halted. The result is there. Unfortunately, it will go in production a year from now.

Visiting Italy was nice, as always. Spend time investigating the production numbers of the V7 models, and models like the Eldorado, Ambassador etc. Will come back on that on this list for those of us who want to now how many of theirfavorite bikes were produced, so please do not respond right now with these enquiries, since I am extremely stressed for time at the moment.

Also I bought from a retired Guzzi dealer his entire old stock. He retired early eighties, and had a lot of thirties/forties/fifties/sixties spare parts, including some racing engines and parts. Some of it is home now, but it will takeseveral trips to Italy to get it all transported to Holland. What a hobby, even my uncle is building up a collection of classic Guzzi's at the moment...

Anyway, today I went over some -old- digest mails of this list, I'm hopeless behind on the reading. On these mails I read some E-mail stories on the Centauro, Daytona RS and Sport 1100 i from Americans and Europeans. Nice stories aboutthe slow or speedy acceleration of the bike, problems with injection, etc. etc. E-mails which were answered by European owners of the same, or another fuel injected, Guzzi. Always very interesting indeed. But I would like to point out thatEuropean versions of these bikes are in some cases not the same as the American versions. And also in Europe itself there are differences. The Swiss versions are different then the other European versions. In my opinion, this is veryimportant to know in order how to 'place' the information given in an E-mail or otherwise message about these bikes.

For the convenience of the owners of these bikes who are on this list (MotoGuzzi List), and other people interested, I have made a list with the main differences. Below the info on the Sport 1100i, Daytona RS and the Centauro for thedifferent world markets:

Camshaft timing.
The Sport 1100 i has for all markets the same camshaft timing:
[1mm play on the tappets]
Inlet valve opens at 22' before TDC
Inlet valve closes at 54' after BDC
Outlet valve opens at 52' before BDC
Outlet valve closes at 24' after TDC

The Daytona RS and the Centauro have for the USA, Switzerland and Singapore the following camshaft timing:
[1mm play on the tappets]
Inlet valve opens at 23'30' before TDC
Inlet valve closes at 57'30' after BDC
Outlet valve opens at 49'30' before BDC
Outlet valve closes at 12'30' after TDC
NB, this is the timing of the first model Daytona!

The Daytona RS for all other countries have the following camshaft timing:
[1mm play on the tappets]
Inlet valve opens at 22'30' before TDC
Inlet valve closes at 69'30' after BDC
Outlet valve opens at 63'30' before BDC
Outlet valve closes at 28'30' after TDC

NB This is the timing of the Racing Kit 'C' camshafts as meant for the first series Daytona!

Moto Guzzi Engine Design

Valve play for all markets Daytona RS, Sport 1100 i, Centauro:
Inlet valves : 0.10 mm
Exhaust valves : 0.15 mm

Gearbox.
In the gearboxes of the Daytona RS and Sport 1100 I up to number CL
011199 and CF 011499 straight tooth gears have been used. The gearboxes from numbers CL 011200 and CF 011500 have spiral gears. Also, for all markets the gearbox of the Daytona RS and the Sport 1100 i are the same.

Underneath the ratio's:
Daytona RS & Sport 1100 i
1st speed: 1 : 1.812 Z=16/29
2nd speed: 1 : 1.250 Z=20/25
3rd speed: 1 : 1 Z=23/23
4th speed: 1 : 0.8333 Z=24/20
5th speed 1 : 0.7308 Z=26/19

For the gearbox of the Centauro only spiral teeth gears have been used.
Gearboxes are the same for all markets with the exeption of Switzerland.

Underneath the ratio's:
V10 Centauro
1st speed: 1 : 2 Z=14/28
2nd speed: 1 : 1.3158 Z=19/25
3rd speed: 1 : 1 Z=23/23
4th speed: 1 : 0.8462 Z=26/22
5th speed 1 : 0.7692 Z=26/20

V10 Centauro -SWISS VERSION-
1st speed: 1 : 2 Z=14/28
2nd speed: 1 : 1.3889 Z=18/25
3rd speed: 1 : 1.0476 Z=21/22
4th speed: 1 : 0.8696 Z=23/20
5th speed 1 : 0.750 Z=28/21

Primary drive ratios Daytona RS, Sport 1100 i, Centauro:
1 : 1.3529 Z=17/23
Centauro -Swiss Version-: 1 : 1.235 Z=17/21

Weber injection/ignition system alfa/N.
Please note that the injectors of the injection system on the 2 valve

Sport 1100 i aren't the same as the injectors on the 4 valve Daytona RS and Centauro models.
Sport 1100 i : Weber injector IW031
Daytona RS and Centauro : Weber injector IW724

Both systems have a few more components which vary. Like the temperature transducers. The transducer gives an electrical signal which is a function of the engine temperature with the 4 valve models (engine temperature transducer). TheSport 1100 i has an oil temperature transducer. The signal of the transducer is fed into the electronical control centre ('engine management computer') and will produce the correction factor for the mixture strength as a function of theengine temperature (Daytona RS/Centauro) or oil temperature (Sport 1100 i).

The transducer consists of a NTC thermistor and is either contained in a brass threaded capsule or a plastic threaded capsule (Daytona RS & V10 Centauro for the USA, Switzerland, Singapore). The Sport 1100 i has for all markets aplastic threaded capsule.

Also the throttle position transducers are different on the Daytona RS/Centauro and the Sport 1100 i. The 4-valve model is a Weber PF09. The throttle position transducer is a potentiometer which is fed by the electronical control unitwhich receives the feedback of the throttle position. This information is used to adjust the basic mixture, the jumps in power demand and phase adjustment at the start.

The electronical control center has an adhesive over the rubber cap. Besides being a seal, it also prevents water from coming in. When new, off factory, on the seal the words 'Moto Guzzi' are printed red.

Aftermarket seals are ONLY available with the words 'Moto Guzzi' printed in green color. So the color of the seal will tell whether the injection box has been opened before. Both the 2-valve model as the 4-valve models have the check lampof the electronical control center placed under the seat. If at fault, blinking codes will make a diagnosis.

Evaporative emission control system.
The USA and Singapore Sport 1100 i, Daytona RS and Centauro models have quite an extensive 'evaporative emission control system', the ventilation gasses of the fuel tank are well filtered by two carbon canisters on all models.

Brakes.
Two models front brake discs have been used on the Daytona RS. Both 320mm Brembo full floaters, but the heart of the disc is more open on the later type. This type is the same as mounted on the Sport Corsa 1100 i.

All the best,
Ivar de Gier

1997 South African 'Rhino Rally' Concours Winning 1982 Moto Guzzi LM III
by Hennie Maartens
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Event was held November 1-2, 1997 in Orkney, South Africa. Rather obsure little mining town, chosen as venue probably because of its proximity to Johannesburg. Has a splendid campsite on
the banks of a river. Pictured is winner Antoon du Toit, his lady, Ronel and her son Garner. The project was a 'family effort'. All three participated in whatever needed to be done to prepare.

The Rhino, if not the biggest, then number two, was attended by 5,000+ bikes. What makes the win noteworth is that Guzzi is more or less extinct over here. We have only casual dealers and certainly no importer. There was some formidableopposition from newer bikes with the backing of established dealer networks.

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